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'Fur Treue Dienste' by ToxicGas 'Fur Treue Dienste' by ToxicGas
German civil service medal (Second class), awarded for "25 years of faithful service". Issued from 1938. A gold version was awarded for 40 years. On the back, the phrase 'Für Treue Dienste' is inscribed.
This isn't technically military, but I think it seems to be the most apropriate section for it anyway.

Let me know what you think, comments and criticism are appreciated. Thanks for looking!
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Tounushifan Featured By Owner Aug 9, 2012
I bought one exactly like this!

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xcxNinuixcx Featured By Owner Jun 27, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
If this was an Austrian website you'd probably be in prison now. :omg:

Normally I don't write comments like that but I'm Austrian and I simply can't understand why this war is so fascinating to some people.
I think it's a terrible tragedy.
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Censorship is terrible, and never the answer. The Nazis themselves used censorship.

Any war is a terrible tragedy, but war has always been (and always will be) a constant element of human existence. The world wars fascinate me for many reasons: interest in them is not the same as glorification of war. The only way to ensure senseless genocide and conflicts don't continue to occur is to learn about those of the past, to understand how and why these things happened. I find the psychology behind those under the Third Reich very interesting, and when you begin to understand that those involved were just people like you and I, you realise the importance of learning from the mistakes of the past. Sadly, history does repeat itself. I also collect these things to preserve history, and because their designs are interesting. I am not a supporter of Nazism. I hope that makes things clearer for you.
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xcxNinuixcx Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
It makes things clearer indeed. I've read a lot about the 2nd world war too, as it concerned my family. My great-grandfather stood up against the Nazis and lost everything except his life.
That's why I am very sensitiv about this topic.
I understand why it is important to understand what was going on in their mind, as history (like you said) repeats itself.
It's a sad thing that the Nazis abused this Celtic symbol, I understand that too, but although the symbol itself is not a bad thing it is linked with the death of hundrets of thousands of people forever.
I always get a very bad feeling when I see it and it makes me sad.
But I appologise if I offended you. I didn't mean to.
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
Late reply here, I've not been using DA as much lately, but anyway:

It would be interesting to hear your great-grandfather's story. That's a big part of my interest, hearing people's individual stories: There were people doing good and bad things on both sides during the war, it was never 'black and white', and everyone's story is different. Here's another thing in my collection, with a unique story attached: [link]
Your comment didn't offend, I just like to try and make people understand that I'm aware of everything the Third Reich entailed, and I think for those reasons it's all the more important that this history is preserved and remembered.
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xcxNinuixcx Featured By Owner Aug 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Umm OK.

My great-grandfather was a secondary school teacher in the city of Linz. He was also member of a Christian social organisation and he was head of a sports club.
Well, he refused to believe the things the Nazis said and kept treating his Jewish students like any other German student.
It went well for some time, but then they imprisoned him for three weeks, he lost his flat and my great-grandma and her children were homeless.
They had to live with my great-grandma's brother for some time before he could afford a tiny flat somewhere on the outskirts.
Compared with others his story's not so tragic as he and his family survived.



My grandfather was against the Nazis too. He was a secondary school teacher, like my great-grandfather (his wife's father), and had his own choir.

He was drafted and was soon captured by the Americans.
Fortunately the American cook wasn't very skilled at cooking.
My grandfather's family, however, owned their own inn and brewery, so they were all very good at it.
He soon became the new cook and was treated relatively well.

In 1945 he and his friend Frederick(well, his name is Friedrich, but Frederick is the English version) headed home.
When they'd already walked the better part of the way they reached a train station.
My grandfather warned his friend to not get on train, but he was so exhausted that he didn't listen to him and boarded it.
The train was stopped by the Russians and they caught him.
He was taken to Russia where he was imprisoned until 1955.
When Frederick came back he was ill and weighed about 40 kg (he was 1,90m tall).

Frederick was a bomber pilot. He fought with a Canadian pilot and in the end both planes crashed, the pilots, however, survived.
They met each other on a field and shook hands.
Both had some kind of identity disc, which they exchanged.
About three years ago the wife of my grandfather's best friend received a letter from some Canadian university student who had found the identity disc, who was asking if Frederick was still alive.
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Imperator-Zor Featured By Owner Mar 25, 2011
I thought the German government offered Non Nazi medals to the non SS figures after the war.
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2011  Student Traditional Artist
That's correct, as far as I'm aware, why do you mention it?
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PeanutbutterJelle Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2010
Looks very grand! (despite being Second Class ;))
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
'All that glitters is not gold' ;)
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PeanutbutterJelle Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2010
Yes...this is BETTER than gold! :D
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J-u-d-a-s Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2010
I bought one of these the other day, I realised I didn't have one.. I also got a close combat clasp, that cost an arm and a leg :)
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
It's a really nice looking medal isn't it? I don't actually have any military medals yet though, suprisingly. I tend to want to save up for actual weapons, and I've been contemplating saving up for an original stahlhelm... I imagine I'll get some eventually though.
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J-u-d-a-s Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2010
Yes it is, I can't resist medals, and I know too many suppliers to get away from them!
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2010  Student Traditional Artist
You run, I'll hold them off!

*gets out wallet*
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hardhead001 Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2009
Nice one...i have the same one in my collection.
im photographing my collection and putting it up un DA at this time...maybe take a look sometime if interrested
but i collect nazi militaria only
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
Thanks! I'll check it out!

I intend to collect more Nazi militaria when I can afford it- as you'll know it's never cheap. Things I'm particularly looking for are Totenkopf badges, helmets and weapons... I'm torn between a Walther P38 or a Stahlhelm of some sort at the moment in regards to my next potential acquisition.
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hardhead001 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2009
an original p38 in good condition is way more expensive than a stahlhelm..at least here in the netherlands.
if i had to choose i would go for the walther...but thats because i allready have 2 stahlhelmets ;)
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
Well it depends here, the Walther I'm looking at is is about £300 and in perfect condition- It's deactivated, as is the law here (not sure if that applies in the Netherlands?). An average Wehrmacht M40 in semi-relic state can cost more than this, and I hardly know where to begin with distinguishing fake and altered helmets from the legitimate. I think really I need to read up on helmets before purchasing! Would you happen to know any good sites that sell militaria such as this?
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hardhead001 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2009
a very good friend of mine is militaria collector/buyer/seller
he really helped me out with buying the right stuff for a good price.
the thing with buying online is that you cant hold the item. and with stuff like this its very important because there are so many repros...
1 site i could recommend is [link]
but this one is very expensive (in my opinion)
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
Yeah, I know what you mean about being able to hold something before you buy it... I always prefer to be able to look at something in person first, but that's rarely ever an option for me. I only ever buy from very reputable dealers and those who are recommended to me... The site you recommend I've looked at a few times before, but unfortunately it's way out of my price range. I'm looking for something around £300 at the moment, but I think I might just be best buying a good helmet when I have the money rather than settling for what I can currently afford! Something might turn up at a militaria fair or something anyway, so I'll keep on looking.
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hardhead001 Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2009
well if i ever see something interresting ill be sure to let u know
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
Thanks, I appreciate it.
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JackalopeBoy Featured By Owner Feb 15, 2009
Its the iron cross for civilians :D
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Feb 16, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
Indeed!
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flamealchemistHaku Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2009
JEEZ! you're a stealer!
I hate you!
I had the exact same medal :'(
and I left it in my glasses case on the goddamn airplane.
GODDAMN AIRPLANE!
:'(
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
:O MINE! stay back! *growls*

So it was this one, eh? I thought you said it was red? Either way, damn I'd be mad if I did that! Some cleaner on that plane's either pretty happy with their discovery or shocked and offended!
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kitelife Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
jeez mat,you're interests are so weird.which is cool.
nice photo.it looks pink :O
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
Haha, thanks! If you think this is weird, it gets worse. :D

But just think how fun my history lessons would be if we still had 'show and tell'... Oh those were the good times. hehe
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kitelife Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
worse than all this treachery you have photos of already?:O
like what...
you ought to bring some into school,just 'cause it'd be interesting :]
the mills bomb is still my favourite though ^^
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
Just even more weird, controversial and dangerous treachery. Like for example, take the assault rifle and add a bayonet on the end. Double the treachery. :)
I would bring them to school, but I'd probably get shot by an armed response unit after consequential panic and confusion that would ensue. I brought a grenade in for art at GCSE once though... but I was very careful. Maybe I could bring your favourite in one time. ;)Haha
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PandaZumie Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2009
a little bit of history in every corner of the world
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
Indeed! I intend to collect one of every bit. ;)
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PandaZumie Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2009
well then, i wish you luck on your quest of historical artifacts
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
Why thanks!
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Patrick1917 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2009
Where did you find this?
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ToxicGas Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2009  Student Traditional Artist
I bought it from an antique shop in York, England. That place is great for historical things like this, loads of interesting and unusual shops. There's quite a few shops selling militaria.
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Patrick1917 Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2009
Damn I wish I had places like that around me.
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